Chess and Go

Does anyone know of any titled Chess players who are also dan (d or p) level Go players?

nope. from my limited experience, i only ran into a couple go players of that level (i think, i don't no the go ratings, but they kept saying dan this dan that) and they were my level in chess, or below, actually. 1300 uscf. and chess guys stick up their noses at go --- it was a chess club, led by one of those go guys. he went back to go, poor guy. i'm joking on that last bit. maybe someone else has more experience and will say differently. but jeezus ----------- completely different skill sets, totally immersive games.

my guess would be there's only one guy who's like titled in go and chess, and he's in an insane asylum playing blindfold chess and blindfold go. blindfold go i assume does not exist. that would be crazy,and i don't no if there is go notation, but there must be.

I remember hearing about some solid players of both chess and go. I want to say chess expert or class A player and an amateur dan level go player (or maybe 1 or 2 kyu). Roughly top 95% ('expert' level in each respective game). I could certainly be wrong. I doubt there are any GMs who are dan level go players but there might be a CM or even an FM somewhere who has legit Go chops.

i suppose so............. from my very limited experience, the guys seemed to really prefer one game or the other. but to be expert level in both i'm sure is conceivable.......... but i'd think that'd be the limit --- expert level, but not above that. those are the two toughest games in the world, afaik. to be expert at both..... might be a guy really talented ... like the stories about koltanowski, being able to do a knights tour.............blind folded... and reciting items people (the public) would place on the squares...from memory. so someone with phreakish talent.

Bruce Amos. He's an International Master, and played for three times for Canada in the Olympiad in the 1970s. He's also a top amateur go player (I saw a reference stating he's a 6 dan, but I didn't find any confirmation for that).

(Supposedly, he switched to playing Bridge now)

www.goratings.org/en/
Apparently no known chess players there...

I know amateur Dan level player who had about Elo 2000. But on that list: definately not. That is top of professional go-players. People who manage to get trough the pro training in Japan usually make not so well at school as go takes too much time. Let alone play another game at master level.

Morozevich seems to on ok amateur level. 1 Dan by EGF. That is far far away from top amteurs let alone pro's

chess24.com/en/read/news/morozevich-on-go-computers-and-cheating
www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php?&key=17850327

1d amateur is about 1000 Elo points below national top players in ant major european country so itis not comparable for NM not even close

Does anyone have any info about just how good this Bruce Amos was at go?
Edit: What is the distinction between Amateur and Pro and how does 6 dan stack up to Elo, and is dan normed?

well nothing is normed as all associations give dan ranks as they like.
Amateur 7dan or 8 dan should be about equal to 1 dan professional. as for Elo point hard to say Elo difference on weakest player to strongest is way bigger in Go than in chess.

Lets say there are few 6 dans in finland. Top Europeans tend tobe 7dans (8 dan in egf is reservedt to former professional trainess is I remember corectly). 7 dan player wins 6 dan with about 67% probability (www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/winning_stats.php) and that is about 120 Elo points. So from strong european amateur (about IM level I would say although not comparable ) to 1dan a fairly strong clubplayer is about 720 points. BUT here again Elo points/rank in not constant so not so clear. Total beginner would be from 20k to 30k . European Elo style GoR is not really Elo as there is artificial connectition to go ranks. Which as said are not same from country to country. But within europe reasonably similar

Wow! An IM who is a 6d go player is impressive as hell.

Granted, dan professionals (1p to 9p) are freakishly strong (I have always thought of them as"GM strong" but maybe 1p is only IMish? Still, unattainably strong for most people). Either way, amateur dan go players are no slouches. That's totally respectable by any standard even if pros would wreck them.

For those who don't know, go uses the same ranking system as Japanese martial arts (ex. Aikido) with another level of dan rankings for pro players. So from beginner to the highest level it progresses from 30k to 1k ("kyu").. then 1d to 9d ("dan").. then 1p to 9p ("dan professional"). In my limited experience, even 1k or 2k is still decently strong by club standards. I have always thought of dan amateurs as comparible to your average blackbelt in martial arts. Dan professionals are like professional fighters (yet another level of "blackbelt" above your typical dojo blackbelt). That's how I think about it anyway.

Also.. I didn't know that Morozevich was a dan level go player. What a beautiful mind.