@KenulL_76 said in #20:
> the takeaway of this discussion is not everything is trolling, and just because you have sensitive feelings doesnt mean everyone is wrong here, if your opponent 'hurts you by breaking your castle' (boo hoo btw) just dont give a fk and play your best
That's what I am trying to understand. If I use the strategy to not resign during tournament end to prevent the opponent from getting the point, and if the opponent gets annoyed, I can call it their sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct? Same goes with other things, example, an opponent is not resigning in losing position, so i go out to make myself a drink, let the opponent wait and deliver the checkmate in last few seconds, I can say they have sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct? Obviously in this example, I was thinking of all possible moves the I and/or the opponent could've made while I was making the drink.
> the takeaway of this discussion is not everything is trolling, and just because you have sensitive feelings doesnt mean everyone is wrong here, if your opponent 'hurts you by breaking your castle' (boo hoo btw) just dont give a fk and play your best
That's what I am trying to understand. If I use the strategy to not resign during tournament end to prevent the opponent from getting the point, and if the opponent gets annoyed, I can call it their sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct? Same goes with other things, example, an opponent is not resigning in losing position, so i go out to make myself a drink, let the opponent wait and deliver the checkmate in last few seconds, I can say they have sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct? Obviously in this example, I was thinking of all possible moves the I and/or the opponent could've made while I was making the drink.
The evaluation of a position is the same whatever reason your opponent had with his last move. Your response shouldn't change.
In other words, just play chess!
In other words, just play chess!
You're talking about the most far-fetched stuff and you're randomly switching between sacrifices, messing around when winning, and stalling in arenas. Why not go play chess and be normal?
p.s. I'm unsubscribing this thread
p.s. I'm unsubscribing this thread
@Shiroyasha47
That's what I am trying to understand. If I use the strategy to not resign during tournament end to prevent the opponent from getting the point, and if the opponent gets annoyed, I can call it their sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct?
You can't, because YOU intentionally jeopardised his/her chances of winning. But a solution to this is very hard to impose so legally its possible but ethically its not.
Same goes with other things, example, an opponent is not resigning in losing position, so i go out to make myself a drink, let the opponent wait and deliver the checkmate in last few seconds, I can say they have sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct?
You can, if the opponent doesnt resign a d you have mate in one, what difference does it make to your opponent?
Obviously in this example, I was thinking of all possible moves the I and/or the opponent could've made while I was making the drink. I mean it's your time, if you want to drink during that time, its your choice
That's what I am trying to understand. If I use the strategy to not resign during tournament end to prevent the opponent from getting the point, and if the opponent gets annoyed, I can call it their sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct?
You can't, because YOU intentionally jeopardised his/her chances of winning. But a solution to this is very hard to impose so legally its possible but ethically its not.
Same goes with other things, example, an opponent is not resigning in losing position, so i go out to make myself a drink, let the opponent wait and deliver the checkmate in last few seconds, I can say they have sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct?
You can, if the opponent doesnt resign a d you have mate in one, what difference does it make to your opponent?
Obviously in this example, I was thinking of all possible moves the I and/or the opponent could've made while I was making the drink. I mean it's your time, if you want to drink during that time, its your choice
@Cedur216 said in #24:
> You're talking about the most far-fetched stuff and you're randomly switching between sacrifices, messing around when winning, and stalling in arenas. Why not go play chess and be normal?
>
> p.s. I'm unsubscribing this thread
me too, im loosing braincells here
> You're talking about the most far-fetched stuff and you're randomly switching between sacrifices, messing around when winning, and stalling in arenas. Why not go play chess and be normal?
>
> p.s. I'm unsubscribing this thread
me too, im loosing braincells here
@KenulL_76 said in #25:
> @Shiroyasha47
> That's what I am trying to understand. If I use the strategy to not resign during tournament end to prevent the opponent from getting the point, and if the opponent gets annoyed, I can call it their sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct?
> You can't, because YOU intentionally jeopardised his/her chances of winning. But a solution to this is very hard to impose so legally its possible but ethically its not.
> But you called my feelings sensitive so I am calling that person's feeling sensitive, that's it. In terms of ethics, I completely agree, but there are many things in world that are unethical and people still do it like killing animals for food is unethical but people still do it.
> Same goes with other things, example, an opponent is not resigning in losing position, so i go out to make myself a drink, let the opponent wait and deliver the checkmate in last few seconds, I can say they have sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct?
> You can, if the opponent doesnt resign a d you have mate in one, what difference does it make to your opponent?
> They will get annoyed, because I finished the game early but making my opponent wait 10-15 min for the last move. They can call it trolling.
> Obviously in this example, I was thinking of all possible moves the I and/or the opponent could've made while I was making the drink. I mean it's your time, if you want to drink during that time, its your choice
Cool
> @Shiroyasha47
> That's what I am trying to understand. If I use the strategy to not resign during tournament end to prevent the opponent from getting the point, and if the opponent gets annoyed, I can call it their sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct?
> You can't, because YOU intentionally jeopardised his/her chances of winning. But a solution to this is very hard to impose so legally its possible but ethically its not.
> But you called my feelings sensitive so I am calling that person's feeling sensitive, that's it. In terms of ethics, I completely agree, but there are many things in world that are unethical and people still do it like killing animals for food is unethical but people still do it.
> Same goes with other things, example, an opponent is not resigning in losing position, so i go out to make myself a drink, let the opponent wait and deliver the checkmate in last few seconds, I can say they have sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct?
> You can, if the opponent doesnt resign a d you have mate in one, what difference does it make to your opponent?
> They will get annoyed, because I finished the game early but making my opponent wait 10-15 min for the last move. They can call it trolling.
> Obviously in this example, I was thinking of all possible moves the I and/or the opponent could've made while I was making the drink. I mean it's your time, if you want to drink during that time, its your choice
Cool
@KenulL_76 said in #26:
> me too, im loosing braincells here
For people still in this thread, this is the definition of trolling, you annoy them till you make them quit.
> me too, im loosing braincells here
For people still in this thread, this is the definition of trolling, you annoy them till you make them quit.
@Shiroyasha47 said in #3:
> One example: a person sacrificed a knight to break my castle thinking that I will not be able to defend the position.
That's not trolling, it's just playing the player instead of playing the game. It's a completely legit way of picking a move, and it's following the rules and trying to win as decisively as possible; nothing there is trolling, cheating, unfair, unsportsmanlike, or anything like that.
@Shiroyasha47 said in #3:
> I knew how to defend, so I felt angry and hurt that they were thinking me like a noob. I felt like they were trolling me and saying let's see how defend against me, you noob.
Yeah, well stop feeling stuff and just make good moves. Controlling your feelings is 100% on you, and if you don't it's gonna affect your games and your life.
@Shiroyasha47 said in #3:
> I cannot read mind but...
But you decided to make up a whole story to explain the other guy's intentions in the worst light possible. Listen, he doesn't think you're a noob, because he doesn't think about you at all. To him you're just a game that happened; you're not important.
@Shiroyasha47 said in #22:
> That's what I am trying to understand. If I use the strategy to not resign during tournament end to prevent the opponent from getting the point, and if the opponent gets annoyed, I can call it their sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct? Same goes with other things, example, an opponent is not resigning in losing position, so i go out to make myself a drink, let the opponent wait and deliver the checkmate in last few seconds, I can say they have sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct? Obviously in this example, I was thinking of all possible moves the I and/or the opponent could've made while I was making the drink.
You can do whatever you decide to, but the consequences are also yours to face. I recommend acting with intelligence, wisdom, and common sense to discern the best action for each particular situation, but after reading your posts I'm not ready to say that you're full of those three. A good next step may be to make mistakes and learn from them; figure out what works for you and what it costs and settle for something that gives you balance and stability.
> One example: a person sacrificed a knight to break my castle thinking that I will not be able to defend the position.
That's not trolling, it's just playing the player instead of playing the game. It's a completely legit way of picking a move, and it's following the rules and trying to win as decisively as possible; nothing there is trolling, cheating, unfair, unsportsmanlike, or anything like that.
@Shiroyasha47 said in #3:
> I knew how to defend, so I felt angry and hurt that they were thinking me like a noob. I felt like they were trolling me and saying let's see how defend against me, you noob.
Yeah, well stop feeling stuff and just make good moves. Controlling your feelings is 100% on you, and if you don't it's gonna affect your games and your life.
@Shiroyasha47 said in #3:
> I cannot read mind but...
But you decided to make up a whole story to explain the other guy's intentions in the worst light possible. Listen, he doesn't think you're a noob, because he doesn't think about you at all. To him you're just a game that happened; you're not important.
@Shiroyasha47 said in #22:
> That's what I am trying to understand. If I use the strategy to not resign during tournament end to prevent the opponent from getting the point, and if the opponent gets annoyed, I can call it their sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct? Same goes with other things, example, an opponent is not resigning in losing position, so i go out to make myself a drink, let the opponent wait and deliver the checkmate in last few seconds, I can say they have sensitive feelings and get away with it, correct? Obviously in this example, I was thinking of all possible moves the I and/or the opponent could've made while I was making the drink.
You can do whatever you decide to, but the consequences are also yours to face. I recommend acting with intelligence, wisdom, and common sense to discern the best action for each particular situation, but after reading your posts I'm not ready to say that you're full of those three. A good next step may be to make mistakes and learn from them; figure out what works for you and what it costs and settle for something that gives you balance and stability.
@Shiroyasha47 said in #11:
> Also, subjectively someone might say that stalling at the end of an arena tournament is a valid strategy to keep the opponent from getting the point. It might annoy you but for many it looks like a good plan.
This would unfortunately be a Completely valid and objective point, but fortunately lichess and most of chess websites Follows my favorite fide chess law "any action that brings chess to disrepute can be punished" ..most of chess world agrees that stalling is unethical.
> Also, subjectively someone might say that stalling at the end of an arena tournament is a valid strategy to keep the opponent from getting the point. It might annoy you but for many it looks like a good plan.
This would unfortunately be a Completely valid and objective point, but fortunately lichess and most of chess websites Follows my favorite fide chess law "any action that brings chess to disrepute can be punished" ..most of chess world agrees that stalling is unethical.