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How do you get e4 in tho? Black seems to control the e4 square well.
@Hagredion said in #2:
> How do you get e4 in tho? Black seems to control the e4 square well.
For example there is maybe hanging bishop on d6, the d pawns vanish when trading on e4, and the knight on d2 could take a piece on e4 then. Then the d-line is free and black would have to protect the bishop.
@Murphy_the_Irish_red said in #3:
> For example there is maybe hanging bishop on d6, the d pawns vanish when trading on e4, and the knight on d2 could take a piece on e4 then. Then the d-line is free and black would have to protect the bishop.
The position I would often get with white is something like 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 c6 3.g3 Nf6 4.Bg2 Bf5 5.0-0 e6 6.b3 Nbd7 7.Bb2 Bd6 8.d3 0-0 9.Nbd2 Qe7 and now the only way to get e4 is to play Re1 but black can already reply e5 and that's just equal.
@Hagredion said in #4:
> The position I would often get with white is something like 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 c6 3.g3 Nf6 4.Bg2 Bf5 5.0-0 e6 6.b3 Nbd7 7.Bb2 Bd6 8.d3 0-0 9.Nbd2 Qe7 and now the only way to get e4 is to play Re1 but black can already reply e5 and that's just equal.
Do you need to play 6. b3 and/or 7. Bb2 exactly at that moment or can you play Nbd2 first and playing e4 earlier?
In general: if the opponent plays well, equality is what you get out of the opening. White can choose the battleground, but black can get equal chances most of the time. To get more hard work is neede, or to play openings opponents maybe don't find a good way.
And Reti is not a real try ro get any advantage, or not (like the openings i play myself asi admit)?
@Murphy_the_Irish_red said in #5:
> Do you need to play 6. b3 and/or 7. Bb2 exactly at that moment or can you play Nbd2 first and playing e4 earlier?
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> In general: if the opponent plays well, equality is what you get out of the opening. White can choose the battleground, but black can get equal chances most of the time. To get more hard work is neede, or to play openings opponents maybe don't find a good way.
> And Reti is not a real try ro get any advantage, or not (like the openings i play myself asi admit)?
And that's exactly my problem with the Reti, in my opinion this setup with c6, d5, e6, Bf5, Bd6, Nf6 and Nd7 is so solid that white never gets much. I think other openings like the Catalan or even the London give white more chances to complicate the game.
@Hagredion said in #6:
> And that's exactly my problem with the Reti, in my opinion this setup with c6, d5, e6, Bf5, Bd6, Nf6 and Nd7 is so solid that white never gets much. I think other openings like the Catalan or even the London give white more chances to complicate the game.
A complicated game is something you can get with white. If this what you like then maybe look into the Jobava-London (Don't like the name all that much, it is not similiar to the London, only in one line you get a sort of "accelerated London" when black plays inaccurate). You can prevent thats black ever gets a safe king. Of course there is a price to pay, often black can go for whites king too. My draw rate has dropped from 60% ro 20% since i play it - and yes, my win rate increased ;-)
Disclaimer: I don't say that white can't get a complicated game with the Reti.
The ideal setup for white in that case is possible if you start as the King's indian attack, and when black chooses this thing c6, d5, e6, Bf5 and Bd6, you don't need b3 & c4 to push e4. And even if b3 and Bb2 is already played, without c4 white has an advantage after advancing e2-e4 (with the help of Qe1). And I agree, there is no advantage if there is already c2-c4 played.
Would you be so kind to make this for Black as well :)