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#21
Yes you are correct, Rashid Nezhmetdinov was never awarded the grandmaster title, because he did not play international tournaments abroad. However he won several times the USSR championship, where he defeated many strong grandmasters and world champions in magnificent style. So by all means he was of top grandmaster strength.
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Lasker had a game against Go pro - he did think he was good in Go before the game. But he lost the game with 9 stone handicap. Which is bit like playing queen down. Handicaps really dont work in chess but just give an idea. I have once played a chinese pro visiting finland in simultaneous game and I was destroyed with 9 stones.
#25 plays quite a bit <> dan level
@petri999 "Handicaps really don't work in chess" What do you mean? Philidor, Morphy and other masters could basically win with rook odds with almost everybody. On lichess up to 2000 rating they would win being a queen down.
#27 engines can play pawn odds against top grandmasters...
well they do to an extend, but not as well. Queen handicap the weaker player could simplify game bit more easily than in Go. Sure there have been handicap games but they are not nearly as popular as in go and shogi. Where most unofficial games are played with handicaps
@tpr Lagrave who is a very top GM, played a weaker version of Komodo with some small odds, and was unable to win untill the computer gave him big enough odds.

@petri999 yes it is true that in games like go or shogi odds can be bigger than in chess because they are more "unstable" games, and the initiative is more important than the material advantage. For example in shogi on top level only 2% of games end in a draw, while in chess they usually draw.

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